Additions to the IOC Western Palearctic list

17 Dec 2018 08:16 #1536 by Graeme Joynt
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Four more addition to the Western Palearctic list in recent weeks, including two Nearctic vagrants recorded in Oct 2018: Western Kingbird (Flores, Azores) and Blue Grosbeak (Corvo, Azores). The other two are additions to the Category C list in Portugal: Pin-tailed Whydah and Scaly-breasted Munia.

As part of the Portuguese review of Category C birds, it was concluded that Chestnut Munia was added incorrectly and was never self-sustaining. It has therefore been removed from the WP list.

Many thanks to the Bubo guys for their speedy updates again.

Graeme Joynt

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28 Feb 2019 12:56 #1553 by Graeme Joynt
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Another addition to the Western Palearctic list, the record of a Jouanin's Petrel in Kuwait (May 2018) has now been formally accepted by KORC.

Two Category C species have been removed following the publication of the new official German List: Swan Goose and Yellow-headed Amazon.

Steppe Grey Shrike is also removed following the IOC decision to 'lump' this form within Great Grey Shrike.

Thanks to the Bubo guys for the usual speedy updates.

Cheers, Graeme Joynt

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05 Apr 2019 11:16 #1557 by Graeme Joynt
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Another addition to the WP list. Asian House Martin has now been added, on the basis of a bird found dead in Lithuania in Oct 2016.

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29 Jun 2019 14:50 - 24 Jan 2020 08:27 #1575 by Graeme Joynt
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The Spanish have added 4 species to their Category C list and these have now been added to the IOC Western Pal list on BUBO. They are:

Red-masked Parakeet Psittacara erythrogenys
Red-whiskered Bulbul Pycnonotus jocosus
Orange-cheeked Waxbill Estrilda melpoda
Black-rumped Waxbill Estrilda troglodytes

The first 3 are best found in the Valencia area and the last in Barcelona and Malaga.

The latest IOC update (9.2) added Stejneger's Scoter to the WP list as a split but removed Barbary Falcon, which is now lumped with Peregrine.

Thanks to the BUBO guys for the quick updates.

Cheers, Graeme Joynt
Last edit: 24 Jan 2020 08:27 by Graeme Joynt. Reason: new info

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18 Dec 2019 16:32 #1663 by Graeme Joynt
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White-breasted Waterhen has been added to the IOC Western Palearctic list, as there is currently one at Jahra Pool Reserve, Kuwait.

Cheers, Graeme Joynt

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24 Jan 2020 08:26 #1705 by Graeme Joynt
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Following recent IOC decisions, two new 'splits' are available on the IOC Western Palearctic list:

Eastern and Western Black-eared Wheatears; and
Hudsonian and Eurasian Whimbrels.

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24 Jan 2020 09:58 #1706 by Andy Musgrove
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...and a third split from IOC 10.1 - Maghreb Owl of NW Africa has been split from Tawny Owl. Have now implemented this in the IOC Western Pal list too.

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24 Jan 2020 11:47 #1707 by Adrian Kettle
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Surely Royal tern needs to be updated as African crested tern has not been recorded in Britain to American Royal Tern?
Although African has been suspected it’s not been proven and it has been split by the IOC.

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24 Jan 2020 11:52 #1708 by Adrian Kettle
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Surely you need to update theRoyal tern situation now the IOC has split African Crested from American Royal.
American Royal is the only species on the British list, although African crested has been suspected but not proved.

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24 Jan 2020 11:56 #1709 by Andy Musgrove
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The Royal Tern split isn't relevant in Britain, as we've only got one of them. (I've done some changes behind the scenes to deal with it). But it's a good point re the Western Pal - surely they've wandered up to the border in Mauretania?? Anyone know?

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24 Jan 2020 12:24 #1710 by Graeme Joynt
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Yes Andy, both need to be on the WP list. West African Crested Tern is easy to see in both Mauritania and Western Sahara.

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24 Jan 2020 12:25 #1711 by Adrian Kettle
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I would have thought it would affect the British list in the same way as the Fea’s complex.
As there has only been 2 identified American Royal terns and only one of which was twitchable rendering all other records as Royal sp.
At least the name in the list should be changed to American Royal surely?

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24 Jan 2020 12:36 #1712 by Andy Musgrove
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Thanks - now added. Note that cos I've done this late, it won't use the same "splitting machinery" - folks will just have to add manually, apologies

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24 Jan 2020 12:37 #1713 by Andy Musgrove
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Well yes, I suppose there are now also some unidentified Royal/WACT records from Britain. But we don't incorporate such into BUBO Listing, just full species.

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24 Jan 2020 12:39 #1714 by Andy Musgrove
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P.S. The word "American" in Royal Tern is superfluous, as the African birds are referred to as West African Crested Tern, to denote their closer relationship with Greater Crested Tern

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24 Jan 2020 13:23 #1715 by Adrian Kettle
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I see what your saying about the name American, but in this case where there is only one Royal tern that is tickable on the British list it will not flag up for people to change there totals accordingly.
I know this won’t make a lot of difference as when people lost Fea’s many seemed to tick Black capped petrel instead!

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24 Jan 2020 13:28 #1716 by Andy Musgrove
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Ah yes, I understand the point. Hmm, without both having occurred in Britain, not much we can do about that really - just a matter of people keeping on top of their lists I'm afraid.

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24 Jan 2020 18:07 #1717 by William Bishop
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The beauty of BUBO is that at least you can see what/where a record is and take it into account. For instance - 11 people think the Common Nighthawk in Antrim is Britain BOU and one that America is Britain BOU! As you say people have to manage their own lists, as I doubt you guys have time to police it.

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24 Jan 2020 19:26 #1718 by Adrian Kettle
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It’s such a shame, Bubo is a great idea and is the perfect platform for keeping as many lists as you want, but when people deliberately misuse the system it rather devalues the whole thing!
Count what you like but do it within the rules of the list your posting in, simple!

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25 Jan 2020 08:34 #1719 by Nick Moss
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I disagree, but do understand your point if you are a competitive twitcher.
Personally I don't really care what others keep on their list. Who are they kidding anyway?
I only care what I put on my list, and BUBO is absolutely superb for recording what I have seen.

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