Re:Portugal list

The Portugal list we plan to use (when we get time to convert it to a format suitable for BUBO Listing) is available from the Portuguese Rarities Committee .

Common species:
birdwatching.spea.pt/ListaEspeciesPt.pdf
birdwatching.spea.pt/PortugueseBirdList.pdf (same in Portuguese)

Rarities:
www.spea.pt/docs/raridades/portugal%20continental_cpr_1.4.pdf

Your birdwatching.spea.pt/ListaEspeciesPt.pdf mentioned above is attached in Excel format.

Will that do?

The rarities list above, www.spea.pt/docs/raridades/portugal%20continental_cpr_1.4.pdf , is now also attached as a XLS file.

NB: I have moved the five subspecies for which the PT Rarities Ctee accepts records to the TOP of the file.

Hi Julio - that's really helpful, thanks. I'll try to get this loaded up onto BUBO shortly

Cheers

Andy

Thanks again Júlio, we really welcome any help we can get with getting new official checklists on BUBO Listing.

Portugal is now top of our to do list!

I'd think that once your website's profile is raised in Portugal SPEA/BirdLife would send you any updates to the list(s) in spreadsheet format. I'm just guessing, but certainly they have them in XLS and certainly they'd (we'd, I'm a member too) find it pursuant to their interests to disseminate such lists as widely as possible.

Lists for the Azores islands and for the Madeira islands are usually handled separately from Mainland Portugal by SPEA/BirdLife, but we can look into that some other time perhaps.

So, do get on with the lists because I've a feature list like a train of Gannets passing through our shores in Spring! The list was the leading adult

Once we have a list online it's not too much effort for us to add new species when they are required. With so many different authorities though it's difficult for us to keep tabs on the latest versions. Generally we rely on users to notify us when they are aware of a change to an authority list they use. This also enables us to add 'provisional' species ahead of official acceptance by the authorities. This is great for most listers, although does mean we have to be unpopular occasionally by removing records if they are subsequently rejected!

Júlio Reis wrote:

I've a feature list like a train of Gannets passing through our shores in Spring!

Well in that case our existing feature list is a winter Starling roost!
We haven't had too much time to add new features recently but do have lots of good ideas. So we'd be delighted to hear yours which will help us prioritise future development.

Hi Julio

I made a start at converting your Portugal base list for BUBO, but could I ask you to check a few queries for us please? There are a number of species present in both the main list and in the rarity list, i.e.

Anthus cervinus
Anthus petrosus
Apus caffer
Branta bernicla
Fulica cristata
Gavia immer
Gavia stellata
Larus argentatus
Larus sabini
Oceanodroma castro
Phalaropus lobatus
Porzana pusilla
Pterocles alchata
Sterna dougallii

For these, could you clarify whether they should be flagged as rare or not? (If we do flag them as rare, then listers will need to enter a date and location).

The other awkward job for me to do then is to merge the two lists in such a way that they are ordered taxonomically (e.g. merge the rare ducks appropriately in amongst the common ducks).

Thanks

Andy

Andy Musgrove wrote:

Anthus cervinus
Anthus petrosus
Apus caffer
Branta bernicla
Fulica cristata
Gavia immer
Gavia stellata
Larus argentatus
Larus sabini
Oceanodroma castro
Phalaropus lobatus
Porzana pusilla
Pterocles alchata
Sterna dougallii

Hi

Just to help a litle, all the species are rarities except Oceanodroma castro this species is a scarce breeder but not a true rarity, the status of Pterocles alchata is also not clear to me, is a very rare breeder but...


Also, please don't forget the C category species:

Acridotheres cristatellus
Estrilda astrild
Amandava amandava
Ploceus melanocephalus
Euplectes afer
Psittacula krameri
Lonchura malacca


Pedro Ramalho

Thanks Pedro

It looks like I should probably flag all of those as rare - it just means that Portugal listers will have to provide a date and location for those species.

Good point about the introduced species. Common Waxbill is on the SPEA list, but the others are not. So, should we include them or not? I suggest that I add them as "pending" species for now, which means they are not on the official base-list but we think they probably will be soon. Does that sound like a reasonable solution?

Thanks again

Andy