Re:Eurasian Teal on Clements List?

13 Sep 2010 05:26 #1 by Pete Mella
I've noticed that Eurasian Teal isn't on my World List, and I've tried to add it and can't find it. Is this a glitch, or am I just being dumb?

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13 Sep 2010 05:59 #2 by Andy Musgrove
Hi Pete

Clements don't currently split crecca and carolinensis, so there's only one species (Green-winged Teal) currently available to you.

Cheers

Andy

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13 Sep 2010 21:55 #3 by Pete Mella
Cheers Andy - I was wondering that, but was presuming if that was the case it'd have crecca listed over carolinensis.

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14 Sep 2010 02:29 #4 by Andy Musgrove
I'm confused, I think. As far as I can see, it does only have crecca, both on the base-list, and when looking at your list. Admittedly, the English name used by Clements is "Green-winged Teal", but it is given the name Anas crecca. Are you seeing carolinensis somehow? If so, something is going wrong somehow - send me details!

Cheers

Andy

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14 Sep 2010 17:40 #5 by Pete Mella
It does say crecca. Ignore me, I was obviously going temporarily mad!

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14 Sep 2010 20:16 #6 by Andy Musgrove
No problem Pete - these lists/authorities can be a tad confusing, I understand perfectly. Am currently working through updating the AOU/ABA lists and it's a bit of a nightmare...

Cheers

Andy

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01 Dec 2011 03:19 #7 by Richard Banks
I've just tried adding green-winged teal to my clements world list; that isn't there either!

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02 Dec 2011 02:47 #8 by Andy Musgrove
That's cos you've already got it on your list.

Cheers

Andy

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02 Dec 2011 14:45 - 29 Oct 2019 17:17 #9 by Mike Prince
This is by far the most common support query we receive (although not always with Teal of course!):

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10 Dec 2011 02:02 #10 by Stephen Gent
Hi everybody this is my first post on this forum. Taxonomy is one of my chief interests in birding, along with migration.

The debate over which taxonomic list to use is one of the reasons I signed up to Bubo, and this is a classic reason I do not use Clements for my world list, it seems too far behind the times. Personally I have had Eurasian Teal (being from the UK) and Green-winged on my list for eons. I don't know any-one on the other side of the pond who lumps these. It really is about time these issues were sorted out and surely in this case pretty easy to do via DNA.

Steve Gent
Rockford IL

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