Re:Eurasian Teal on Clements List?

I've noticed that Eurasian Teal isn't on my World List, and I've tried to add it and can't find it. Is this a glitch, or am I just being dumb?

Hi Pete

Clements don't currently split crecca and carolinensis, so there's only one species (Green-winged Teal) currently available to you.

Cheers

Andy

Cheers Andy - I was wondering that, but was presuming if that was the case it'd have crecca listed over carolinensis.

I'm confused, I think. As far as I can see, it does only have crecca, both on the base-list, and when looking at your list. Admittedly, the English name used by Clements is "Green-winged Teal", but it is given the name Anas crecca. Are you seeing carolinensis somehow? If so, something is going wrong somehow - send me details!

Cheers

Andy

It does say crecca. Ignore me, I was obviously going temporarily mad!

No problem Pete - these lists/authorities can be a tad confusing, I understand perfectly. Am currently working through updating the AOU/ABA lists and it's a bit of a nightmare...

Cheers

Andy

I've just tried adding green-winged teal to my clements world list; that isn't there either!

That's cos you've already got it on your list.

Cheers

Andy

This is by far the most common support query we receive (although not always with Teal of course!):

Hi everybody this is my first post on this forum. Taxonomy is one of my chief interests in birding, along with migration.

The debate over which taxonomic list to use is one of the reasons I signed up to Bubo, and this is a classic reason I do not use Clements for my world list, it seems too far behind the times. Personally I have had Eurasian Teal (being from the UK) and Green-winged on my list for eons. I don't know any-one on the other side of the pond who lumps these. It really is about time these issues were sorted out and surely in this case pretty easy to do via DNA.

Steve Gent
Rockford IL