normal Lady Amherst's Pheasant

4 years 1 month ago #1248 by Nick Moss
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:laugh:

Ok I had'nt realised it was that long ago.

But the point remains, if that extinct species is not on the British list, why would Lady Amhersts Pheasant remain when it dies out?

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4 years 1 month ago - 4 years 1 month ago #1249 by Jim Clarke
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4 years 1 month ago - 4 years 1 month ago #1250 by Jim Clarke
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The point doesn't remain. Great Auk is on Category B of the BOU British List. You can tick a Category B no problem if you are old enough to have seen it in Britain 50+ years ago, but why would you put a species up on a listers site like Bubo that no one could conceivably have seen?

Cat B is for species that otherwise would be on Cat A (i.e. wild birds). No time limit is mentioned for Cat 6. If BOU want to mess around with the categories further (say to subdivide B to include once self-sustaining feral birds) they could, and you are best to ask BOU directly about it, but I can't see it being a particularly pressing issue for them. If you took Lady A from the start of its C6 status that's 2055, from the last bird of the formerly feral population that's going to be 2064 or shortly there after.
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4 years 1 month ago #1251 by Nick Moss
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Cheers Jim. If the only reason Great Auk is omitted on BUBO is simply because no one can have seen it, then that is understandable.

I just wondered whether birds that had died out were not retained on the list, hope that makes sense.

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4 years 1 month ago #1253 by Jim Clarke
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Actually a correction to the last sentence of my last post. James is correct; BOU have stuck with a cutoff date (31 December 1949 www.bou.org.uk/british-list/species-categories/ ) for Cat B, rather then the rolling 50 year one I implied (and I'm not entirely sure where I got that from). So in that regard any change in Lady A status would also have to involve a change in the Cat B cutoff date. Otherwise it could potentially stay on C6 for ever.

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4 years 1 month ago #1258 by Nick Moss
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I see that according to Lee Evans year list 2015, he reports 5 males still in existence from 12 March this year, 3 at a his former feeding station, and 2 more males he believes to be forced from the land of the nearby Centre Parcs.

I thought we were down to 1 or 2 birds.

Does anyone believe that females are infact still alive and breeding is still occurring?

Interesting. And not secret either.

Thoughts?

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4 years 1 month ago #1259 by Jim Clarke
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Thought; it's Lee's report so contact him?

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4 years 1 month ago #1260 by Nick Moss
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I personally have no problem with Lee but as I am not close to him I don't think I would get any reply. I'm sure others will query this anyway and his thoughts will emerge.

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4 years 1 month ago - 4 years 1 month ago #1261 by Jim Clarke
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I'm not sure anyone else will be able to (or wish to) expand any further then he already has done.
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