Who is Britain's top twitcher?
Most British listers on BUBO Listing have kept a Britain only list, rather than Britain and Ireland. I suspect this is because for many (including me!) these lists would be the same. However a higher proportion of top listers are interested in their Britain and Ireland lists as well.
Is Steve's the highest list? Do you suspect anyone not on BUBO Listing has seen more? Let us know!
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according to Lee Evans's UK400 Club it is not Ron Johns or the invisible man ( i still don't know who this is a nickname for possibly Steve Webb ! ? ), and Chris Heard is now in 5th place.
Its a great shame that other top listers like Ron Johns,Steve Gantlett,Chris Heard,Edwin Welland etc don't post their lists on Bubo,of course it is entirely up to the individual.Maybe some of them don't know about this website, it would make fascinating reading if a few of them did appear on Bubo !.
There are some younger twitchers coming through who one day may well take the crown, Richard Bonser who has seen an incredible amount of birds in Britain & Ireland for a 28 year old stands out. I take my hat off to him for his persistance.
It will be interesting to see how this thread develops,
atb,
Vince Halley-Frame. :dry:
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The fact that Lee's rankings don't match ours is obviously due in part to the fact that many birders still have to discover the delights of BUBO (!), but also because his rankings use his own UK400 club taxonomy. Obviously, this differs somewhat from the BOU/IRBC lists favoured by a greater number of people on BUBO to date. Thus, it is quite possible that other top listers have seen a greater number of UK400 splits (i.e. considered as subspecies by BOU) than Steve.
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Andy
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Now without wishing to pour cold water over this, can I raise the point that the Top Twitcher in any one year is likely to be the birder who is able to devote the most time and money in chasing birds all over the UK. Instead, I would prefer to see more praise heaped on the top Self Found lister, and these days, the Non-motorised year list.
It would be interesting to hear what others think.
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Steve should be congratulated for what he has achieved and it's about time a "Top Twitcher" gets some recognition for what is often regarded as a lesser important aspect of Birds and Birdwatching.
More birders should be proud of what they have achieved as far as listing goes(regardless of what list is kept) and what better way to show it than entering a list on BUBO...
Regards Ian.
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You are thinking exactly the same way that i do, i could not have written a post that better describes how i feel about the top twitchers. You have to admire them and take your hat off to them, or in my case a ridiculously loud baseball cap from the Edinburgh Weaving Company !
As for the post by Dan, aren't we all 'self found'
listers at heart ?. There is nothing more exhilirating than finding your own birds, especially when you find something good just as you are feeling a tad disheartened. I never post a self found list on bubo because i rarely stray from my local patch of which 100% of the birds in 2009 are self found, and because i have enough bubo lists already !.
My i take this opportunity to say that the bubo forum is up and running, let us not forget that it is there for all of us to use, i hope to see more bubo listers posts in the future.
Good birding to one and all,
Vince.
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Congratulations to Steve Webb who I remember as a youngster setting out years ago to challenge the Great Ron Johns. He must be the undisputed Champ as his list stands up againts the official taonomic lists. With the greatest respect the lee Evans list is really only recognised by Lee.
Well done Steve - have not seen you for years but keep it up - I reckon you must have at least 30 years left and you will have more time (maybe less cash) in retirement.
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The reason why I include Ireland is because I have been going there since 1970's and in those days many birders were also included Ireland. As you know the British and Irish list use to be a combined list.
It is more difficult to determine what rivals British lists are because most high listers include Ireland.
Cheers
Steve
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If I count the Citril Finch then I am ahead of Ron by one but level pegging without it. With the Cretzschmar's Bunting (29/09/08) that put me one ahead not including the Citril Finch. Ron saw the Little Blue Heron later in the week than me so for a short duration I was ahead by two. Sorry about that.
It would help if others birders put their lists in the public domain i.e. bubo (including first date of sightings) as it would then be easy to compare lists.
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Im trying to work out why you would like to see more listers using Bubo. I clicked on your name to discover you have been a member of this site for over two years without a SINGLE list contribution. I know for a fact that your BOU list is somewhat higher than mine, so how about a contribution ? If not then why not ?
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Whilst Andy has posted about the 1000th "active" lister recently, there are actually nearly 500 "inactive" listers like Johnny, i.e. those who've registered but not actually added any lists. And of course, since viewing lists is public there's several more who use the site but haven't registered.I clicked on your name to discover you have been a member of this site for over two years without a SINGLE list contribution.
Come on Johnny et al, let's get some more lists on!
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Im trying to work out why you would like to see more listers using Bubo. I clicked on your name to discover you have been a member of this site for over two years without a SINGLE list contribution. I know for a fact that your BOU list is somewhat higher than mine, so how about a contribution ? If not then why not ?
Regards,
Vince. :dry:
Very well put Vince, there's a lot of Birders out there checking this web-site without joining in...maybe they've got something to hide .
It would be good to see more joining the ranks and it's very encouraging to see some of the Bigger Listers getting involved, so maybe one day we'll see a complete "Top Ten". I know for a fact if i were up there i'd be more than happy to let everyone know what i'd seen!
Some may be put off thinking their list is not "big" enough but Twitching is after all a lot of Fun (well most of the time)and Listing is all part of it. The beauty of BUBO is if you can't compete with the Top it's better to take a look at the people near you on the list and check what they've seen and when they started Twitching. At the end of the day we all know the size of a list aint that important but trying to increase it gets you out of the house and takes you to some Fantastic places around the Country and you'll see some Superb birds along the way!
Sorry if i've gone on a bit...
Cheers Ian.
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Johnny
Im trying to work out why you would like to see more listers using Bubo. I clicked on your name to discover you have been a member of this site for over two years without a SINGLE list contribution. I know for a fact that your BOU list is somewhat higher than mine, so how about a contribution ? If not then why not ?
Regards,
Vince. :dry:
Hi Vince,
my actual comment was "I know of lots of guys who must have pretty big lists and it would be nice to see them on BUBO". I do not count myself amongst these. I refer to people like Ron Johns, Steve Gantlett, Richard Millington, Chris Heard, Steve Whitehouse, Dick Filby, LGRE, Franko, John Hewitt, Barry Reed, Mick Turton, Dave Holman, Edwin Welland and many more.
Although it's not compulsory to for a member of this site to put any list up, the reason I haven't is that I can't be arsed just yet. However, I may get around to putting my BOU, county and patch list up some time. I'm sure others will as well.
Kind regards
Johnny Allan
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I thought exactly the same before getting my lists onto Bubo: I didnt have time, I had to check dates etc etc. I eventually updated an Excel spreadsheet with all details. This was forwarded to Andy and Mike and hey presto within days my lists were on for all to see.
I do agree it would be great to see the big boys lists, just to know what, where and when birds had been seen.
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Trevor
PS Keep up the good work Andy and Mike.
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Notice you're a couple of spots above me and your profile states your fondness for quality ale so no doubt our paths have crossed somewhere in the past inside The Atlantic no doubt after that mega. Hicks is a bit too powerful for me,used to prefer Tinners and lately Tribute. Anyway just a small contribution in answer to your request for more members to post on to the forum. Off to Shetland this Sept. for the first time where I hope to catch up on a few birds missing from my list maybe even Whites thrush which I notice you need yourself, as well as sampling the local Valhalla beers.
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BR
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i haven't visited Scilly since 2005 when the Cream Coloured Courser turned up and i haven't had a pint of Hicks since ! I had a week on Shetland last year in late September early October. We found R-b Fly at Channerwick and a few Yellow-b Warblers at Kergord plantation which we birded quite a bit. A week or so after we left a White's Thrush was found there !
I did see one in Ireland in 1993 and spent ages looking for the 1999 St Agnes bird without so much as a glimpse ! That bird cost me a Veery at St levan, as a chopper was chartered from Tresco to Penzance when news broke. I was stuck on Aggie looking for that bloomin' Thrush !
I am sure you will enjoy Shetland for the scenery and get some ticks, i will click on your BOU list and click the target to see what you are missing. That way i will have a good idea what you are most likely see, ah the beauty of bubo if only we could get more customers....
All the best for Shetland Brian,
Regards,
Vince.
P.S. Im going to Ireland seawatching on 21st-23rd August at The Bridges of Ross in County Clare.My main targets will be Fea's and possibly Wilson's Petrel.
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BR
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Andy
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By copying over their Britain, Ireland and Isle of Man lists and deleting their Irish (and perhaps Isle of Man) only ticks would then have a record for Britain alone.
Any takers?
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I believe my combined BOURC/IRC list is 2 ahead of Ron Johns and Steve Gantlett. This includes the Little Shearwater for Ron although I have not checked if that is still an accepted record.
I have only heard Little Shear although I have been in the wrong group when one has flown by. A very difficult to bird to catch up with. Perhaps one day!!
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Steve
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Hi all,
I believe my combined BOURC/IRC list is 2 ahead of Ron Johns and Steve Gantlett. This includes the Little Shearwater for Ron although I have not checked if that is still an accepted record.
I have only heard Little Shear although I have been in the wrong group when one has flown by. A very difficult to bird to catch up with. Perhaps one day!!
Cheers
Steve
Steve,
Any chance you could post your BOURC records? Are you likely to be the highest British lister (as well as BOURC/IRC)?
Regards
Paul
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Steve Webb wrote:
Hi all,
I believe my combined BOURC/IRC list is 2 ahead of Ron Johns and Steve Gantlett. This includes the Little Shearwater for Ron although I have not checked if that is still an accepted record. ................
Cheers
Steve
Steve,
Any chance you could post your BOURC records? Are you likely to be the highest British lister (as well as BOURC/IRC)?
Regards
Paul
Paul,
Sorry for the late response as I have been abroad.
In the future I will probably put my British BOURC list on Bubo. It is likely to be the highest BOURC list.
Regards
Steve
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Other than changing details for birds ticked in Ireland and later in the UK, such as white-winged scoter, the differences will be small and may be in single figures - eight or nine birds.
AS you may know, to set up a Britain only list, start with a copy of your Britain, Ireland and the Isle of Man list and delete Ireland only species, such as snowy egret, to give the correct British total.
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The Snowy Egret was at Balvicar, Seil Island, Argyle & Bute Scotland.
You must be referring to the Little Blue Heron at Letterfrack County Galway Eire.
Both were firsts for their respected countries,
Regards Vince.
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I can think of just three birds with Irish but no British records. Canada Warbler, Blue-winged Warbler and the Little Blue Heron.
Philadephia Vireo is a British blocker. 19 of 21 list the Tresco Scilly 1985 bird (two blank!) on their British Lists out of 772 (2.7% only connecting) at the time of writing. There are two Co Clare records, 1985 and 2008, ticked in Ireland by most of the 22 posting Britain, Ireland and Isle of Man lists out of 140 listers (15.7% connecting).
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