Turkish Bird Checkist on BUBO Listing

13 Aug 2013 20:48 #1 by Kuzey Cem Kulaçoğlu
Hello,

I am a Turkish birdwatcher and twitcher. I came to BUBO Listing to share my Turkish tick list with others, but later I found out that a Turkish Bird List does not exist. It is actually quite normal, as there is no official records/rarities committee in Turkey, and there is no certain list to use.

However is it all possible to just make symbolic list, just to keep me and other Turkish bird watcher who is/will be a member of BUBO listing busy? Because if that is possible, I can find the most reliable Turkish checklist I can find, or maybe even make one myself that most people will agree.

So far I'm using the WP list; but as all my ticks are from Turkey, the total number of species I've observed in 2 years (since I started birding) is really low when compared with total number of species on the WP list (about %25).

Thank you for your help :)

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14 Aug 2013 10:20 #2 by Mike Prince
Hi Kuzey

As you will realise, we've been struggling to keep up with adding new lists! Turkey is though the most requested list by our users so I'll see if I can add this within a few days. I'll use a Turkey list from Avibase which is generally the best option when no official list is available.

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14 Aug 2013 15:43 #3 by Kuzey Cem Kulaçoğlu
First of all, thank you for your quick response!

I am very pleased to hear that; however I've just checked the AviBase list and there seems to be c.20 extra species that normally shouldn't be on the list (Canada Goose, Caucasian Snowcock, White-tailed Tropicbird, Solitary Snipe for instance).

The KuşBank (Birdbank; a bank of bird data on Turkey) list is much more reliable, with only 472 species (maybe more with a few taxonomical splits).

However, I'd be happy with any Turkish list :)

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14 Aug 2013 23:49 #4 by Mike Prince
Whilst we like to support Avibase because it is regularly updated there is no information about the source of particular species and we do often find several mistakes like this. We can look to use the KuşBank list instead, which I presume is reasonably accurate and updated since it is used via World Birds . However, is it possible for you to get a copy of it electronically, preferably in spreadsheet format with English and scientific names? The first species I noticed was Cory's Shearwater, which the website via Google translated into "Boz minute hand", which doesn't seem very helpful :-)

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11 Sep 2013 19:03 #5 by Kuzey Cem Kulaçoğlu
Well I can send it as a table if that's what you mean :) Would you like me to send it here ? :)

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16 Sep 2013 12:15 #6 by Mike Prince
If you can, please email a spreadsheet to listing@bubo.org

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21 Feb 2014 22:14 #7 by James Appleton
Hi all.

Any joy with a list for Turkey yet as I'm unable to find one using 'Create New List'? I've got my 1990 dog-eared paper list to hand, would love to get it on BUBO... :laugh:

Atb,

James

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24 Feb 2014 15:11 #8 by Mike Prince
Unfortunately not James, I think we'll stick to using the Avibase list. Won't happen for a while though - which I'm sure you can cope with if your records are 24 years old :-)

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02 Mar 2014 22:06 #9 by James Appleton
Thanks for that Mike, I'll try Avibase and maybe import the list to Bubo...

Atb,

James

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20 Aug 2014 15:54 #10 by Thijs Valkenburg
Any news about the Turkish List?

Thanks!
Thijs

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21 Aug 2014 00:28 #11 by Mike Prince
No unfortunately not: we never got a copy of the "official" Turkish list. At the moment due to lack of time on our part we are not introducing new lists, but instead concentrating on maintaining the most popular ones. Sorry about that.

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28 Sep 2014 00:47 #12 by Kuzey Cem Kulaçoğlu
I already have made a Turkish List for BUBO based on IOC 4.3, however I want to get it accepted by several people first, as I think it would be wrong to post it just by myself.

However, I will send you a copy of it now, just so there can be a Turkish List on BUBO. On any further update I will let you know.

Cheers, Kuzey.

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05 Oct 2014 17:06 #13 by Mike Prince
Now available on BUBO Listing - see www.bubo.org/Checklists/turkey.html .

Thanks Kuzey!

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05 Oct 2014 22:32 #14 by Kuzey Cem Kulaçoğlu
I can't open it :huh:

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05 Oct 2014 23:07 #15 by Mike Prince
Sorry, try again.

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05 Oct 2014 23:21 #16 by James Appleton
I couldn't get it to open either. This one worked though! Point 5...

www.bubo.org/Checklists/Middle-East-Caucasus-and-Central-Asia/

Atb,

James

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01 Nov 2014 03:58 #17 by Kuzey Cem Kulaçoğlu
Black-throated Accentor / Prunella atrogularis / Kara Boğazlı Dağbülbülü

should be added to the list as one got ringed and photographed today.

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01 Nov 2014 20:02 #18 by Mike Prince
Now added, thanks for the update.

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02 Aug 2015 06:32 #19 by Kuzey Cem Kulaçoğlu
Hi, some late updates:

1) IOC has split the Purple Swamphen-complex into 4 species. Out of these, Western and Grey-headed Swamphen have occurred in Turkey. Western is a vagrant with one record and Grey-headed is a local breeder.

So
Sazhorozu - Porphyrio porphyrio - Purple Swamphen
should be changed to
Batı Sazhorozu - Porphyrio porphyrio - Western Swamphen (bold as it is rare)
Sazhorozu - Porphyrio poliocephalus - Grey-headed Swamphen

2) This year two new species has been added to the Turkish list. These are obviously rare and need to be bold.
Cambaz Kartal - Terathopius ecaudatus - Bateleur
Sazak Mukallidi - Iduna rama - Syke's Warbler

3) Black-throated Accentor, already in the list, should be bold.

Thanks.

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10 Sep 2015 20:58 #20 by Mike Prince
Have done the last three, and will sort out the Swamphens within the next couple of weeks when we apply the latest IOC updates.

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14 Sep 2015 15:27 #21 by Mike Prince
Swamphens now done

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03 Aug 2016 20:48 #22 by Kuzey Cem Kulaçoğlu
Some further updates;

Black-winged Kite is now an established breeder in a small area in SE Turkey, so the "boldness" of the species should probably be removed.
Change the Turkish name of Western Swamphen to "Sazhorozu" and the Turkish name of Grey-headed Swamphen to "Gri Başlı Sazhorozu".
Add "Western Olivaceous Warbler - Batı Ak Mukallidi" to the list in bold (apparently several ringing records).
Add "Plain Leaf Warbler - Küçük Çıvgın" to the list in bold (paper published in Dutch Birding).

Cheers.

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04 Aug 2016 06:32 #23 by Mike Prince
Thanks Kuzey, all done.

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18 Aug 2017 14:21 #24 by Kuzey Cem Kulaçoğlu
Hi, a slight problem I'd like to address:
Ever since the split of Cyprus/Eurasian Scops Owls the Eurasian Scops Owl cannot be added or viewed in any list of Turkey. I can't add Eurasian Scops Owl to my life list because it doesn't show up in the main list at all. In fact none of the current Turkish lists have ESO.
Is there anything that can be done?

Thanks, Kuzey

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19 Aug 2017 08:19 #25 by Andy Musgrove
Hi Kuzey - I think this is fixed now?

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25 Aug 2018 19:09 #26 by Kuzey Cem Kulaçoğlu
Hey everyone, just a few updates for the list, would really appreciate if you could incorporate them:
-Add Red-flanked Bluetail / Tarsiger cyanurus / Mavi Kuyruklu Bülbül to the list, as an old record from 2001 came to light.
-Add Grey-headed Lapwing / Vanellus cinereus / Gri Başlı Kızkuşu to the list, 1st record for Turkey and WP in March 2018.
-Add Oriental Skylark / Alauda gulgula / Küçük Tarlakuşu to the list, one seen March 2018.
-Add Basra Reed Warbler / Acrocephalus griseldis / Basra Kamışçını to the list, one trapped and ringed May 2018.

I've seen some lists having an "provisional" option of sorts. The following species are suitable for that option as they aren't really formally accepted (yet): Western Swamphen, Barbary Falcon, Plain Leaf Warbler, Greenish Warbler, Western Olivaceous Warbler, Hume's Whitethroat.

Also a minor bug, "Middle Spotted Woodpecker" can't be viewed nor added to any list about Turkey, nor can it be seen in the major Turkey checklist.

Thanks in advance! :)

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26 Aug 2018 03:03 #27 by Mike Prince
Hi Kuzey

Thanks very much for these: all now added.

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