‘Missing’ vascular plants

Hi all,
I believe that the following are missing from the database, all species or hybrids that appear in Stace 4. Apologies if I have overlooked them.

Species
Koch’s Gentian (Gentiana acaulis)
Spanish Daffodil (Narcissus hispanicus)

Hybrids
Nepeta x faassenii
Linaria x sepium 
Calystegia x lucana 
Cratageus monogyna x heterophylla
Quercus x rosacea
Betula x aurata
Viola x contempta 
Silene x hampeana
Primula x polyantha

There is also Limonium recurrum missing so that ssp portlandicum cannot be counted (as recurrum)

Hope this all makes sense and thanks for such a great site - much appreciated.

Steve

Hiya Steve, 

Gentiana acaulis is now G.clusii (Trumpet Gentian)
Narcissus hispanicus is now N.pseudonarcissus subsp.major
Nepeta is here already, listed as Garden Cat-mint
The next couple of hybrids are on the BSBI database and on NBN, as such they should be here too.
I doubt the Hawthorn would make the grade seeing as it isn't listed as being its own entity. 
I didn't check the rest

Really glad to see you here! 

Seth. 

I also have a few to add!
Hyacinthoides x massartiana
Erica x watsonii
Salix x reichardtii
Viola x burnatii
Carex oederi
Dactylorhiza x grandis
Dactylorhiza x venusta
Geum x intermedium


I also have a couple of other queries: Can we have Reindeer - Rangifer tarandus (Unpenned Population - Cairngorms) and Melampsora pulcherrima (Annual Mercury Rust) which isnt on NBN but there has now been 6 records on iNaturalist. 

Hi Seth,

Thanks for your input and good to hear from you again. I’ll have another look on the site to ensure these aren’t all down to my oversight. The Gentian is confusing as Stace makes reference to the ‘colony’ of Koch’s on the North Downs (the ones I’ve seen) as having wrongly been identified as Trumpet before. Maybe the taxonomy has moved very quickly!

All the best,

Steve

Hi Kian - apologies for the delay in replying, been a busy winter.

Carex oederi - this is considered part of Carex viridula at present, but BSBI are currently reviewing the list of plants on the UK Species Inventory so we'll see what happens after that

Hybrids Hyacinthoides x massartiana, Erica x watsonii, Salix x reichardtii, Viola x burnatii, Dactylorhiza x grandis, Dactylorhiza x venusta, Geum x intermedium - it's hard to decide which hybrids are countable and which are not, so we've started with a list of the most stable ones as identified in Stace by them having their own numbered entry. I agree some of the ones you've listed are very widespread and some are fertile and persistent, so we may open up more in due course.

Reindeer - as I understand it, these animals wander free in the summer but are rounded up in the autumn to do their winter duty around the country, avec red noses. Shame though, as I've also seen them looking very wild!

Melampsora pulcherrima - I don't know who has authority to decide on the UK fungus list, but looking into this one, it looks pretty convincing to me so yes I've added this one for you.

Cheers
Andy


 

Hi Steve - sorry for the delay in answering, and thanks to Seth for picking up some of these.

Re hybrids, as it's hard to know which hybrids should be countable vs not, we've started by only including those with their own separate numbered entry in Stace, e.g. Montbretia is in Stace as 4. Crocosmia x crocosmiiflora and so tickable on the website, while the hybrid listed as 2 x 4. C. masoniorum x C. x crocosmiiflora is not. I think all those you've listed are the latter situation.

We may open this up more in future, but I'd want a consistent approach from a set of top botanists (of which I'm not one!)

P.S. Limonium "recurrum" is actually L. recurvum and is on the site.

Cheers
Andy

Thanks for the reply Andy, appreciated!

Cheers Andy, thanks for adding the rust fungus!! I guess we’re all waiting to find out what the BSBI will do!! Thank-you for adding everything on, it’s super helpful and I’m loving the new website!!! I put it on the Facebook post but I was struggling with Dasineura odoratae as it was redundant on there but the synonym was itself?!! I thought that’d be the case with the reindeer, maybe one day they’ll be allowed to live up there permanently.