IOC Western Palearctic List updates

28 Sep 2023 11:40 - 29 Sep 2023 12:30 #1 by Graeme Joynt

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Mourning Warbler added to the WP list (Corvo, Sept 2023).

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29 Sep 2023 12:29 #2 by Steve Lister

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September even.

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29 Sep 2023 12:30 #3 by Graeme Joynt

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Changed, thanks!

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23 Dec 2023 16:06 #4 by Graeme Joynt

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Horus Swift added to the WP list (Netherlands 2019, now accepted).

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02 Jan 2024 11:55 #5 by Diedert Koppenol

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BOOM!

Thanks for the quick action.

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09 Feb 2024 18:39 #6 by Graeme Joynt

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Asian Green Bee-eater added to the WP list. One record from Rhodes on 21st Aug 2004 but also apparently resident in southern Iraq.

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10 Mar 2024 03:01 #7 by Graeme Joynt

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Grasshopper Buzzard added to the IOC Western Palearctic list (Mauritania, March 2024).

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27 Mar 2024 10:50 #8 by Graeme Joynt

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Red-billed Quelea added to the IOC WP list, recorded in both Cape Verde and Mauritania in early 2024.

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11 May 2024 20:03 #9 by Graeme Joynt

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Red-breasted Swallow added to the IOC Western Palearctic list (Denmark, May 2024).

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10 Jun 2024 10:57 #10 by Graeme Joynt

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Himalayan Vulture added to the IOC Western Pal list, Armenia April 2024.

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28 Jun 2024 17:25 #11 by Graeme Joynt

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Arabian Sunbird added to the IOC Western Pal list (Saudi Arabia, June 2024).

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28 Aug 2024 15:32 #12 by Graeme Joynt

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Eastern Red-rumped Swallow added to the IOC Western Pal list (several records, recently split by IOC).

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19 Oct 2024 12:34 #13 by Graeme Joynt

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American Goshawk added to the WP list as it is on the official Irish list.

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28 Feb 2025 09:44 #14 by Graeme Joynt

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Blue-crowned Parakeet has been added to Cat C of the Portuguese list. Fairly easy to see in Lisbon.

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28 Feb 2025 19:00 #15 by Graeme Joynt

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White-breasted Cormorant removed from the list following the lump with Great Cormorant.

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18 May 2025 22:41 #16 by Graeme Joynt

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Lesser Striped Swallow added to the IOC WP list (Kuwait, May 2025)

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25 May 2025 11:40 #17 by Graeme Joynt

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Another addition to the WP list, a Crimson-rumped Waxbill photographed at Abu Simbel today. Not the first report from the site but the first confirmed I believe.

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12 Jun 2025 18:38 #18 by Graeme Joynt

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Following the Avilist lumps announced this week, the following have been removed from the WP list.
Basalt Wheatear
Cabot's Tern
Green-winged Teal
Maghreb Lark
Maghreb Owl
Yellow-billed Kite
Cape Verde Buzzard
Mediterranean Flycatcher

The remaining 6 lumps are not straightforward and will need to wait for Bubo to implement the new taxonomy.

A sad day unfortunately.

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12 Jun 2025 18:50 #19 by Diedert Koppenol

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Hi Graeme,

Thanks as always for your quick updates! However, why not wait until 15.2 IOC is posted? As this list is still under IOC authority, is it not a bit strange to implement AviList taxonomy already?
Or what is the reason for making these changes already?

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12 Jun 2025 19:01 #20 by Graeme Joynt

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Hi Diedert

IOC and Avilist are now one and the same. I thought it be easier to delete the 'obvious' species now to save a lot of work for everyone once those 8 changes are implemented. The remaining 6 are ones where not everyone may have seen the obvious one, so they will have to wait for Bubo to bring in the new taxonomy. So for those 6 everyone will have to review their own lists accordingly, which is enough work as it is!

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12 Jun 2025 22:40 #21 by Mike Prince

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I believe only when IOC 15.2 is published are AviList and IOC one and the same. I'm not sure when they are doing this, but currently we won't preempt AviList changes before IOC publish them because it would cause various complications.

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12 Jun 2025 22:44 #22 by Diedert Koppenol

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Hi Mike and Graeme,

Yes, that is what I was referring to in essence. Basically we are now 'jumping the gun' to IOC 15.2, but it is a bit semantical, I guess.

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12 Jun 2025 22:51 #23 by Mike Prince

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Sorry, there was a confusion between Graeme and I both doing updates. We've "jumped the gun" slightly with our IOC WP list now, but will hold off on other IOC changes for the moment as we can then apply them at one time for all IOC country lists as well.

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14 Jun 2025 13:35 #24 by Steve Preddy

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With lumps elsewhere on BUBO, the first sighting details of the deleted species have been added in the comments of the species it has been lumped into, which is a helpful approach in case of re-splits. This doesn't appear to have been done with these deletions. Is the data retrievable?

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14 Jun 2025 17:25 #25 by Mike Prince

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Hi Steve
Unfortunately it's not practical to retrieve the details for all IOC WP lists of these species that were accidentally deleted rather than lumped.

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20 Jun 2025 19:24 #26 by Graeme Joynt

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Following discussions with leading German listers, it has become apparent that the club300.de checklist is used by listers in Germany. So the Bubo WP list (IOC for now) will follow this. Hence the following 3 species have been added as Category C species:

Greater Rhea
Swan Goose
Yellow-headed Amazon

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21 Jun 2025 12:10 #27 by Steve Lister

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Greater Rhea?????
Time to reconsider what can count as Category C, or how listers view it.

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21 Jun 2025 12:23 #28 by Diedert Koppenol

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Why, Steve?
Perhaps you are unaware of the massive (imo) population of feral Rheas in Germany?

See here for example:

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"The South American greater rhea has been spreading in northeastern Germany for 20 years. What began as a small population has now grown to 600 Rheas. The brazen birds are voracious eaters, and they wreak havoc on farmers' crops."

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